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"outfront" next, protest erupt in egypt. thousands demonstrating against a controversial grab for power by mohammed morsi. many saying he's acting like a
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modern day pharaoh. a big republican turns his back on the grover norquist tax pledge. is the gop preparing to give in to the president? is and thousands of people packing into stores today. watch your wallet. we'll tell you how the shopping season is really adding up. let's go "outfront." good evening. i'm tom foreman. egypt erupts. thousands of angry egyptians have been protesting in opposition to a controversial power grabby egypt's president. at least 80 people have been injured and one killed in clashes with police who fired tear gas into the crowds. the unrest began after he issued a series of orders which allow him to run the country unchecked until a new constitution is written.
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morsi says his actions are meant to speed up reform and achieve political and social stability. >> translator: i have said beforened i repeat again, that i would never use a legislation against individuals, parties, men, women or muslims or christians for personal gains and to settle scores. >> now, this is all very problematic for the white house. just two days ago, president obama and secretary of state hillary clinton were praising morsi's government for helping broker a cease fire between israel and gaza. today, the u.s. state department expressed concern over the recent developments saying quote, one of the aspirations o f the egyptian revolution was to ensure power would not be overly concentrated in the hands of any one person or institution. he was elected in june with nearly 52% of the vote, but thousands are calling for his removal today as they stormed the headquarters of one of his
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chief support groups. the crowd then marched on to tahrir square, chanting birth of a new pharaoh. let's get the latest on this situation with ian lee in cairo tonight. what's the situation right now? >> reporter: well, tom, it's 2:00 a.m. now in cairo. and the protests are still going on. we're still seeing clashes in and around tahrir square between the protesters and the police. we're seeing a range of things thrown back and forth. rocks, we've seen molotov cocktails, we've seen tear gas. there are reports of police shooting into the air to scare off protesters. this is a very intense scene we've seen. we haven't seen anything like this really since a year ago when we saw clashes, when we saw dozens of people killed. this has really been the most intense set of clashes since then and all these protesters are angry about that power grab you were describing where president morsi really has no
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one overseeing him. the judiciary, he has pushed that aside. he now has really full power and tomorrow, we're going to be watching closely, also, the judiciaries said they might strike basically grinding the whole country's court system to a halt in retaliation for this power grab and also need to point out there are have been supporters of president morsi out in the streets today. we saw hundreds of people at the presidential palace voicing their support for him saying this is the only way to move the country forward. but right now, tonight in egypt, it's very, very, very devicive. >> ian, one more question here. you mentioned the idea this might expand to a broader group tomorrow. do you have any sense how much staying power this group has? we see movements rise up in various countries and burn out after 48 hours and move on. any sense about this one? >> reporter: it's a good
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question. we've seen protests like this go to tahrir square demanding different things throughout, really since the revolution last year began. and that's the question. we see tenlts going up in tahrir square, giving it a look like this is going to be a prolonged demonstration. even we're still seeing hundreds, if not thousands of people still in and around the square at 2:00 a.m. so it definitely a lot of people are are energized, but as the week progresses and people have to go back to work, will they stay in the square demanding that there is some change that morsi steps back on his declaration, that's to be seen, but right now, it looks like it is going to go ahead and have that sort of staying power. >> thanks so much for joining us there in cairo. i don't know you'll keep us up to date. we want to bring you more guests now. josh stacker, he's met and spoken be mohammed morsi more than a dozen times, affiliate with the woodrow wilson international center.
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colletti, let me start with you. do you have a sense of this having lasting power? is this a deep movement or is this a shallow movement? >> well, it's a very good question. of course, we have seen many times over the last 20 months or so where various groups have rallied in and around tahrir square with various demands. this time though, i think we're seeing something, there's something is a little bit different in that they are speaking in a much more unified voice. t the opposition, the nonislamist opposition is for the first time in a very long time, at least reading from the same sheet of music. whether that will last i think is the question. >> briefly, if you could, what are the actual powers that the president has taken unto himself?
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>> well, it's more like what powers hasn't he undertaken? he has full executive authority. he has also full legislative authority and he's essentially neutralized the third branch, which is the judiciary. so they are now unable to challenge any of his decisions. and this is far more sweeping than anything that the previous military rulers had done. or that mubarak himself had done, so i think there is a lot of well placed skepticism about this sort of an action. >> josh, some of the protesters there are basically saying that what they fear is that at this moment, we're watching the rise of a new dictator ship. is that just high perbole or a legitimate concern? >> i think it's a legitimate concern. i think in many respects, when a prosecutor takes the kind of power and says it's temporary,
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the kind of injection that goes into that office is very difficult to kind of parse out in say six or eight months and there's a new constitution. >> josh, let me ask you about the timing of this whole thing. is your impression of this is sheer coincidence that he made this power grab because certainly, the white house has to be fearing. he stood alongside us. he looked like he was with us, like he had our backing and now, he lunges for all this power and it makes the u.s. look complicit! this plan wasn't just hatched the morning after president morsi negotiated the cease fire between hamas and israel, so i really think that you know, they've been sitting and waiting to launch this as a you know, attempt. because there's a lot of things going on. there's a lot of challenges to the legal, you know, basis of the muslim brotherhood.
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there's lots of, the fact that there's been virtually no internal civilian or military security sector reform. the fact that you know, there's a court ruling in the drawer of the supreme constitutional court that could disban the assembly, so i think that was meant to preempt a lot of those. not to mention egypt just signed a $4.8 billion agreement with the international monetary fund and i believe that president morsi feels like he needs to be unaccountable as they undergo these very intense neo liberal economic adjustments. >> thanks very much for being here. obviously, it's a tense situation over there and a very important situation that will bear watching throughout this weekend. cnn will stay right on it. still "outfront," is this the return of the cave men? some republicans are seeing
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signs that maybe their leaders are about to cave on promises not to raise taxes. reports that general petraeus told members of his staff to share military reports and other sensitive documents with his mistress, paula broadwell, and israeli troops open fire on a crowd killing at least one palestinian. what does this mean for the cease fire? stay with us. tonight our guest, thomas sargent. nobel laureate in economics, and one of the most cited economists in the world. professor sargent, can you tell me what cd rates will be in two years? no. if he can't, no one can. that's why ally has a raise your rate cd. ally bank. your money needs an ally.
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our second story "outfront," republicans turning their backs on the norquist pledge not to raise taxes. says he does not care that he signed pledge years ago. he's going to do what he feels is right. here's what he said earlier on situation room. listen. >> the commitment he made to the people of georgia was not to me. it was a written commitment to the people of georgia that he would go to washington to reduce government spending and reform government, not raise taxes. if he wants to change his mind and become a tax increaser so we don't have to reform government, he needs to have that conversation with the people of georgia. >> douglas holt eakin and ethan poll lack, they join us right now to talk it over. douglas, what do you think here? is this smart repositions by some republicans out there or is this a civil war within the party? >> i think this is politics. the pledge has been a political
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document and you know, over the years, it did have the virtue of focusing the attention on the spending side. in the past 30 years, we've seen taxes go up, down and sideways, but we've never seen a sustained effort of spending and the kind of entitlement reforms this moment's going to require. >> now, ethan, i know you worked with the obama camp for a while. there's a notion in this that both sides were aware that in all likelihood, taxes are probably going to have to go up across the board simply to deal with the deficit and everything else out there, so if you're a democrat, are you happy or unhappy because once that train starts rolling, it could hit l middle class, which the democrats warn they won't touch. >> i mean, i'm definitely happy about it. it's thanksgiving and i'm very thankful right now for millions of americans who came out on november 6th and declared loudly that the tax reform in particular making especially the
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highest income americans, you know, actually paying their fair share of taxes. that that's a priority and something that should be pursued in context of the fiscal cliff. the train is rolling and i think it's nice to see even some republicans now eventually realizing that taxes in particular tax fairness, does need to be a substantial part of this fiscal debate. >> but you just skated around my question, which is that if you're going to have real tax reform, almost every economist says the middle class is going to pay more, too. how are democrats going to handle that? >> i think the first thing you need to do is make sure the higher income households pay their share. comprehensive tax reform, where we can broaden the base and make sure we are both getting the revenue we need, but at the same time, the progressiveivity we need to make sure the middle class are still strong. the first step, the last decade,
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average family is not getting any type of raise when adjusted for inflation and you've seen the income of the highest income americans skyrocket. so the first thing we need to do is solve that problem, then we can have a broader conversation. >> everybody in the world will vote for a tax for the other guy, but not for themselves. when you hear ethan say that, the democratic position on that, even as republicans try to reposition, to see an overall reposition of washington. >> well, i think we have two very different problems. one is between now and the end of the year when we see sharp spending increases that come automatically, which are a genuine threat. what we need the leadership to do is to get us to the spring of 2013 safely and then in spring of 2013, we're going to have to have some sort of large deal on the debt. the level is too high. the growth rates are unsustainable. the international ratings community has said we have to see something happen and in
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doing that, we're finally going to see something that's gone for 30 years end. republicans for 30 years have said we're not raising taxes unless you fix those entitlement programs. they're dangerous to our future. the democrats have said we're not until you raise taxes. both sides are going to have to make a deal in the spring and it's going to involve everybody. >> let me ask you this, douglas. norquist said a number of times in defense of his position, look, what's wrong with saying to a politician, when you want my vote and you make a promise, you should keep that promise. what's wrong with saying that to either side about any topic? >> so, i think that there's nothing wrong with that. this is about making political commitments, something politicians have to and should do. my own preference is not written pledges, but in fact, people who say this is what i believe and follow through on it. i think one thing it did do is
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focus its attention, which is still under discussed. we have an enormous spending problem, it's about entitlement problem. what the president was forced some recognition that the threshold decision is to spend the money. >> ethan, your reaction to this whole idea that norquist keeps saying, it's about taxes for him, but also about politicians being honest. you should mean what you say and pursue it in that fashion. what do you think? >> sure, i have nothing against pledges politics make to voters. i have a problem when they're pledging bad policy. if you look at the fiscal cliff, there's a lot of bad policy, particularly on the side of the bush tax cuts. particularly for those on the higher end that cost a lot of money, that don't provide a will the of benefit to the economy. when tackling the fiscal cliff, we should ask ourselves, which
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are the most ineffective things. >> keep thinking, guys, that down the line here, the chorus over and over is going to be we all pay more and all get less. thanks for being here. we appreciate it. thousands of people paid a lot to do cramming into stores everywhere. you might even be watching this on a new tv, but retailers needed more than hype. they needed red hot cash registers on this black friday. we'll tell you how sales added up today because a lot of jobs are counting on it. in just a few weeks after mitt romney's defeat, the gop is already looking forward to 2016. say it ain't so and there's another bush on the horizon. plus, we're following news of a massive gas explosion in massachusetts. take a look. we'll have details just ahead. >> hi.
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our third story, a mad dash for black friday. thousands of people rushed into stores aross the country today. look at them. they're looking for black friday sales while some shoppers didn't actually have to wait until friday.
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some stores like target, toys "r" us and walmart offered their events on thanksgiving day itself. so did these big promotions actually work? retail analyst dana tellsy is out there reading the tea leaves. did you go shopping? >> of course i did. yesterday, also. >> what did you get for me? >> you know what, it's not december 25th yet. keep the suspense going. >> so, was this a good start, a bad start? >> i think it was a decent start. since there's more hours that retailers are open, the traffic is extended over longer period of time. i think it was decent. i think the level of promotions was the same as last year, but black friday is a game for retailers to gain market share and that's what they did this season. >> and this is a long shopping season, right? from this black friday to actually christmas day, little bit lopger than usual. >> it's typically between 26 and 32 days. it's 32 days this year.
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christmas is on a tuesday, so we have that weekend in order to be able to spend the last minute gifts and that's important to deliver holiday season gains that could be better than expected. >> so, walmart claims they had their best ever black friday event saying that in four hours last nigh, they processed almost 5,000 items per second. now, that sounds like a lot, but walmart is huge. does that sort of sales level indicate to you that really this is a great season or you know, we're kind of holding our own? >> i think holding their own. they played it to win. they showed the great ads, consumers responded. if there's one thing that the american consumer knows how to react to, it's promotions and a deal. >> the national retail federation predicts that the increase in holiday sales will be 4.1%. why is it smaller this year? >> number one, you're going up
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against tougher comparisons. you can't always best your best numbers yet and two, retailers ordered less inventory this year than in the past. if there's one thing retailers want to do, they want to come out of the holiday season with a profitable season and that's why a smaller increase this year than last year, but it's not all said until it's done and that's december 25th and even january. >> 40% of holiday sales take place in the ten days before christmas, so keep a few extra bucks in your wallet. thanks for being here. good shopping to you. >> you, too. >> thanks. still "outfront", new developments in the petraeus sex scandal. reports today that he may have offered staffers the opportunity to share sensitive documents with his mistress. quite an opportunity that is and the investigation into the death of a 31-year-old woman when doctors refused to perform her abortion, she lost her life. [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus presents the cold truth.
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welcome back to the second half of "outfront" where we start the second half of our show with stories that we care about and focus on our own reporting from the front lines.
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first, to massachusetts, where a gas leak turned into a large explosion in downtown springfield. the blast was caught on camera this evening. look at that. we're told the ball of fire levelled at least one building and sent glass and debris flying through the air. they're treating eight people for injuries, but no one's in critical condition. springfield is about 90 miles west of boston. tonight, 12 people remain in serious condition after yesterday's massive crash on a texas highway. the highway patrol tells us more than 100 vehicles were involved in a pileup on a foggy interstate near beaumont. the crash killed two people. a couple on their way to a gambling trip. >> my dad and i, we worked together, we had a good relationship and we had, got to spend time together golfing and fishing and i'm so thankful for that now. my parents are wonderful, loving people.
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all who knew them, knew that and they'll be sorely missed. >> witnesses tell our local affiliate the dense fog made it impossible to see. good news, in new york, the gas rationing program put in place in the days after superstorm sandy, the rationings ends tomorrow. 85% of the gas stags are now running. only 25% were openeded just two weeks ago. new jersey and long island stopped rationing gas last week. jailed russian punk musician is now in solitary confinement according to a statement from her lawyer, she was moved to a single prison cell for her own protection because of conflict with other inmates. she and two other members of the band pussyriot were convicted. the musicians are currently serving two-year prison sentences. it's been 477 days since the u.s. lost its top credit rating.
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it was a good day for stocks. all three of the major indices rose by more than 1%. our fourth story "outfront," unraveling the petraeus scandal. it just goes on and on. according to a law enforcement firm, federal agents are investigating whether david petraeus instructed members of his staff to share military documents with his biographer turned lover, paula broadwell. broadwell visited petraeus on more than one occasion while he was running the war in afghanistan and according to former staff members, she would often ask for records petraeus claimed he wanted her to have. the question, did broadwell have his permission to obtain documents. fran and ron, author of the secrets of the fbi. fran, a really basic question here. if you just walk up to someone on a staff and say, hey, the
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general would like me to have classified documents, is that all there is to it? would they likely hand them over on that? >> no, but you have to understand the military culture. i visited petraeus in afghanistan on business and he walks into a briefing, he speaks to you about sensitive military matters, the staff sees that, there's a military culture and so, if you then ask for a document and suggest that the general has offered it to you in some way or sanctioned your having it, it's very difficult for a subordinate military member to either question the general's guest or the general himself about that. and so, it's not really clear, did petraeus actually direct that she could have these documents? did he communicate with his subordinate soldiers and command? we don't know that so it remains unclear about the circumstances. >> so, ron, if it's a staff member who sees this sort of
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relationship or thinks they see such a relationship and they hand over information, is just the staff member in trouble or does this trickle up to the general as well? >> no, i think in the end, they will find in investigating this, that petraeus did issue instructions. i just don't think staff members would be giving up classified information just because they see that he has a close relationship with paula. so, i think eventually, the facts will come out and it will go to petraeus and you know, clearly has bad judgment. we saw that with his affair and i think in this case, the same thing. >> paula broadwell has been cooperating with the fbi in this whole thing. they've got her computers, that sort of thing. isn't this the sort of information they would have almost immediately when they have this level of cooperation or is this something that would just come out through parts of an investigation? why are we hearing about it now?
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>> well, they really you know apparently, purposefully delay this investigation until after the election and that's when they finally did the search. i got a call on october 10th from a long time fbi source telling me about the investigation and telling me that this would not go down until after the election and sure enough, that's what happened. i was still working on the story and then when the resignation was announced, i was able to do a story within an hour saying that an fbi investigation was behind the resignation, which would not come out, but you know, if you just look at the dates, it's obvious that it was time to come out after the election. the day after the election is when the fbi finally informed clapper, the dni and then supposedly president obama was told. i doubt that. i think he was told before by eric holder. but the really serious thing in my mind is this lag time of many months during which petraeus was
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allowed to stay in office even though the fbi knew he was having this affair. when he could have been compromised, could have been blackmailed by the russian foreign intelligence service and apparently, it was a political decision. that's what really has agents furious. >> i know there's a lot of edition, too, about the timeline of it and how much political elements were or were not involved, but i want to go back to fran with a question here. if somebody did this, if they pass on this information and they're found out, would that person likely be prosecuted even if told by general petraeus to do this? >> there are a couple of questions here that i think we have to parse out, right,ing so we don't know whether or not the general told them, but what an injustice it would be if you prosed the subordinate military officer for passing a classified document if done at the direction of the general.
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they believed that the initial classified information that came across was low level classified information, whatever that that is. >> you and i were talking earlier and how there's classified information, then there's classified information. meaning there is some classifieded information, just because somebody said let's make it classified. it's not that important. that's right and the investigators we've spoken to have suggested that's what they found. they found more material in the search of broadwell's home. she was cooperating with the fbi and that's led them to really want to find out. in interviews of both broadwell and petraeus, both deny he provided the information. we don't know what she said about who did in fact provide it to her or what the general's involvement is, but if it is at the general's election, then it seems to me that the general and whoever the subordinate is would be in harm's way, if you will, for a prosecution.
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>> ron, where do you think we are in this investigation? are we getting near the end where someone's going to say here's the bulk of what we know? are we still in the middle, the end? where are we? >> clearly, this keeps on unraveling. i think what we're going so see next is the result of the house and senate committee investigations as to why they were not informed because i know on a regular basis, the fbi informs those committees or at least the two top ranking people on those committees of much less sensitive investigations than this and yet they didn't tell them about this until after the election, so they're going to get the facts. they're going to investigate the timing, including why it took so long to actually bring this to a close.
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and why petraeus is allowed to stay in office that long because they can call for example, the agents on the case, they can get the real facts and get the records. >> we're going to have to move on because we're running out of time, but ron, thanks so much for coming in. fran, as always, good to have you here. i hope you had nice thanks givings. thank you for joining us the day after. next, israeli soldiers open fire on a crowd killing one palestinian. hamas says they were farmers going to work. israel clams something else and officials launch an investigation into the death of a 31-year-old woman. doctors refused to perform her abortion and she died. stay with us. ♪ ♪
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at meineke i have options... like oil changes starting at $19.95. my money. my choice. my meineke. we're back with tonight's outer circle where we reach out to our sources around the world. first to the border of israel and gaza. where israeli troops opened fire on a crowd killing at least one palestinian. hamas is says the crowd was formers going to work. israel claims the people were rioters. sara sidner has more. >> well, tom, the palestinian authority has already come out with a statement saying they believe this has broken the cease fire, but you have to remember that it is hamas that is in control right now in gaza and that israel has not responded to this. this is an incident where hamas says that there were 25 people injured.
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one person killed when israeli soldiers opened fire on farmer, however, the israeli military having a very different take on what happened. they say they were groups of men trying to go under the fence and they fired a warning shot in the air and when not heeded, they fired at their leg. the israeli military has not confirmed whether or not someone died or any of the injuries, but at this point, i think what we're not hearing from hamas and israel, the cease fire still holds and that's what a lot of civilians on either side are really hoping, but really in the end, they're hoping for a permanent solution. tom? >> moving on to the democratic republic of congo, where forces seem to be no match for a group known as m 23. the rebels are trying to topple the government by gaining control of the entire country. david mckenzie is in nairobi and i asked him what the rebels were planning next. >> they're pushing on to new front lines after they took the key town. thousands of civilians have fled the scene. more than 100,000 people are in desperate need of humanitarian assistance. comes after the rebels took the city this week. right now, there are moves to go
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to the negotiating table. the rebel leader has been summoned to uganda with talks, but they're worried that this bloody situation could get even worse. tom? >> our fifth story "outfront." >> they're pushing on to new front lines after they took the key town. thousands of civilians have fled the scene. more than 100,000 people are in desperate need of humanitarian assistance. comes after the rebels took the city this week. right now, there are moves to go to the negotiating table. the rebel leader has been summoned to uganda with talks, but they're worried that this bloody situation could get even worse. tom? >> our fifth story "outfront." the election is barely behind us, but speculation is already shifting to who will be running in the next cycle. can you stand it? i can't. one name is jeb bush. that's right. the brother of president george w. bush. part of the bush political dynasty. maria cardona joins us now along with rion salam.
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is jeb bush really going to run? >> well, it's not clear right now. but i'll say this. jeb bush is widely regarded as a tremendously effective political operator and having been a successful governor of florida. the truth is, that had his name been smith instead of bush, i think a lot of people would have been wondering why he didn't run this time around. i think he's a formidable competitor. >> you bring up a really good point here. if you're a democrat, you're saying sure, give us another bush to run against because we think the bush name is somewhat poison right now, maria, but, but, jeb bush is fluent in spanish. he's married to a woman who grew up in mexico. he has strong ties in a big state with a big latino vote. this is the kind of guy that could put democrats on the defensive.
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>> he would give us a whole lot more competition than mitt romney did, but that's not saying much. jeb bush absolutely i think is a tremendous leader when it comes to the issues that are important to latinos for example, immigration and education. he's got a very good name i.d. among latino voters. he does have a mexican wife, is fluent in spanish. is very comfortable, the same way his brother is, around latinos. but i think the problem for jeb bush is absolutely his name sake. his legacy. and you know, i know that a lot of people might be sick of legacies and people are talking about hillary clinton in 2016, but if it is, for example, hillary clinton and jeb bush in 2016, a lot of voters are going to think back to the last bush and the last clinton and make a comparison and that's not a
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comparison that jeb bush will win. >> just because i can't stand talking about 2016 yet. let's talk about the senate race in 2014. senators mcconnell, graham, cornyn, chambliss are thought to be vulnerable to the tea party. republicans have to sort this out. how much they're going to lean more toward the base or more toward the fiscal conservatives in the tea party or are they going to go more toward the middle and in the end can they get the senate back? >> well, i think getting the is that the back is going to be tough to do and it's going to depend on candidate recruitment, particularly in states like
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alaska, colorado and louisiana. where you have a pretty republican electorates, but you have democratic senators coming from those states. now, as for this tea party insurgency idea, when you look at this cycle in 2012, if you look at 2010 as well, you had a lot of insurgent candidates who ran against firmly, established canned who had one statewide before. it's not obvious to me you're going to see a ton of donors and act vis who are going to be fired up about that having seen that the result of those tea party insurgencies in come cases, threatened a winnable republican candidate. so my guess is that you're going to see moderation on that front. if only to win winnable swing states. >> maria, let me ask you about this. you know what i would fear in the senate race? i would look at the recent races and if wasn't for republicans running offer in the woods and shooting themselves in the foot, democrats wouldn't have done as well and that's something democrats can't take too lightly heading into the mid terms.
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>> absolutely, tom. it will no doubt be very difficult in 2016. it was very difficult this time around and i'm sorry, 2014, and 2014 is by the sheer math of it going to be harder than it supposedly would have been this time around for republicans. republicans blew it. can democrats count on republicans blowing it in the next two years? no. that's why you see democrats who are up in 2014 going to continue to focus on the issues that their constituents care about and mary landrieu is very good get married, have a couple of kids, [ children laughing ] move to the country, and live a long, happy life together
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31-year-old woman who suffered a miscarriage and then was denied an abortion and died. cnn's nic robertson spoke with her husband. >> reporter: he has lost his wife and now fears the truth behind her tragic death may be lost, too. >> we've seen tampering of the medical cards, basically some key information is missing.
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>> reporter: praveen and savita halappanavar met in india, married, then set up home in ireland four years ago. he is an engineer, she was a dentist. they were happy here. >> she loved dancing. she forced me to dance with her on a couple of times on the stage. we gave a performance. and that will be the fondest memory i suppose. i have never gone onstage, i never had. i always had the stage fear to go and speak and the belief she gave me was unbelievable. >> reporter: together, they had dreams of a beautiful future, of children, their children, of having a family. >> she was looking forward, basically. in a way she felt she was at the right place. that's the reason why she knew and she was very well organized as well. she knew what she wanted in life. that's the reason why she had decided to settle here on the
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long term. >> when savita became pregnant they were overjoyed. then their ordeal began. savita got back pain. here, doctors told her she was miscarrying. her baby would likely die. savita's husband says they asked for a termination and were told this is a catholic country, not while the fetus is alive. >> we requested for termination. we wanted to go back, go home and you know, think about the next pregnancy because it was a planned pregnancy. we were so happy. we wanted to have babies. >> reporter: three days after the request, the fetus died, was removed. four days later, savita was dead from a blood infection. >> our bodies, our lives! >> reporter: ireland has been outraged.
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protests in support of savita not just here, but across the world, have urged the country's politicians to update abortion laws, prevent similar tragedies. there has been political fallout, too. abortion is a hot button issue in ireland. the prime minister is under pressure to get halappanavar to help a health service inquiry. government steps so far have done little to inspire halappanavar, not just he says because they took weeks before announcing an inquiry but when they did, three of the seven medical professionals on the investigation team were from the same hospital here where his wife died, although they have now been replaced, other issues remain. not the least of which, the missing medical records. records the hospital declined our request to comment on. >> basically my request for termination and there is no note of the request in any of the notes and also, the response
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from the doctor is not in the medical notes either. >> reporter: what do you think has happened to it? >> we don't know. it's just strange that there is all other information in there for when we requested for a cup of tea and toast and things like an extra blanket was given, all that is in the medical notes. >> reporter: he says he will settle for nothing less than a full public inquiry, where the health service, not just his wife's death, is investigated. >> every single family person asked me how could this happen in a country like ireland in the 21st century. because it was just so simple. when they knew that the baby's not going to survive, why wait? think about the bigger life which was the mother, my wife,